Fscism is a result of creationism. Creationism is built upon the idea of the right for the strong to claim his rights, and such strong men can cooperate to defend their right to rule the naive people who consent to being ruled . The strong ones are the initiated ones, the men who have trained to become ruthless and strong, to become gods. The created male mind is the holy spirit. Mankind has abolished creationism in large parts of the world, and gotten rid of the religious justifications for it. In many modern countries religion plays no significant role anymore. We have given women rights to vote, we have given the individual rights, human rights, etc.. Humanism had a big influence in the religiously dominated Europe around the year 1500, which led to secularization and reformation within the churches, protestantism was formed in this process. Humanism centered the world around the natural man, instead of the view of the world _base_d on God which dominated Europe earlier. The God-_base_d mind was challenged by the natural mind, and man became the measure for the new paradigm, instead of the God-_base_d earlier paradigm. But we are still in the middle of the process of coming out of the creationism which was very strong in stone age times. This process takes thousands of years, and USA is the most powerful conservative culture today, which is trying to drag the rest of the world backwards historically, with all the violence they export through media, the ideological justifications for creationism in the form of both religion and the talk between the lines in tv-series and movies from Hollywood. So we see every day how the creationists gang up on more natural and naive people, in usenet as in many other places, and they feel very convinced that they are on the right side. After all, they have God on their side. And the absolute rights they have claimed . The creationist mind is built on strong conviction and self-righteousness, extreme examples are middle east terrorists minds and the violent gangs in USA. Those minds are the results of creationism when it has gone to extremes. But creationism is also still part of the culture in most parts of the world, although at less extreme and violent levels. Creationism is a system of social traditions, religious ideas, about how boys must be made into men, how women are trained to serve the man, how marriages are arranged, how social order is established and upheld. The people who try to establish and uphold a strict order in some newsgroups are, whether they know it or not, children of creationism. The people who are mobbed by the creationist gang are more natural people, who had the luck in life to be brought up more naturally, but they do not have a defence against these creationist kids. Many natural kids are forced to become tougher and learn to justify their new state of mind, so a lot of people grow up as natural children but become creationists later in life. It is often seen as an initiation rite to become a grownup, to get a controlled mind, to learn to think twice and speak with a forked tongue. Deviousness is rewarded, the natural and relaxed person is seen as weak and stupid. Deviousness leads to fraud, the smart ones enrich themselves and enslave others. This is the cultural origin of property and capitalism. The creationist mind is chronically excited, which results in a lot of drug use, alcoholism, restlessness, workaholics, bitterness, intensive love, sex addiction, sports, manic obsessions, viewing a lot of violence on tv or movies, violent computer game addiction, etc.. All different forms of extremely excited brains which are not allowed to relax and rest. This is a cultural problem we suffer from all over the world, it is just more extreme in some parts of the world than in other parts of the world. It stems from our historical background, the social dominance games in the stone age and even earlier. It is a cultural pattern we will have to get rid of to become modern intelligent people instead of adrenaline-driven stone age beings. There are texts written to help people understand creationism and find ways out of it. The most famous one is Tao-te-Ching written by Lao-Tzu, available in many translations all over the web. It is the most translated and copied text in the history of mankind, and has had an enormous influence on the development of modern thinking. It has also been twisted around by millions of creationists who try to interpret it as a justification for their views, that is why taoism soon became a worshipping mystical religion after the death of Lao-Tzu. The struggle between creationism and a more natural way to think goes on inside our own heads during our lives. We may fight creationism while we are young, defending our natural peace of mind, and later in life we may accept creationism as the normal grownup way to be. As we get older we may go back to our first position and realize that creationism is something you do in the middle of life, as married. So we are often thrown back and forth between accepting creationism and being attacked by it. Lazy minds give up and accept the justifications for the state of mind they are forced to live in. Others struggle all through their life to resurrect their lost peace of mind and a childs natural and simple view of the world. It seems to me that with or without religion good people will behave well and bad people will do evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. (Steven Weinberg, Nobel physicist.)  As Robert Ingersoll noted, Religion has not civilized man - man has civilized religion. And yet fundamentalists such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell and Tim LaHaye still declare war on non-believers, seeking nothing less than total world domination. Once again, non-believers are treated as dirt. Diagnosing the social disease of Fundamentalism is simple. The classic symptoms are: (1) the individual is nothing but a slave to the cause ; (2) women are the property of men; and (3) non-believers must be conquered or killed. In other words, men are slaves, women are dogs, and non-believers are dirt. Examples that meet these criteria include Moslem and Christian Fundamentalism, as well as Hitler's Nazi belief system of Aryan superiority. (From a web page about fundamentalism) Socialism stems from humanism, the opposite of creationism and fascism. Humanism means that humans started to live for the sake of humans, not for the sake of the rich and powerful, or for the sake of God.

The historical situation we are in today is characterized by a transformation from a world which was owned by a few extremely rich persons, into a world which is owned democratically by all people. There is no such thing as a democratically owned world. When a mob steals from someone, it's not moral. You see democracy as mob rule , don't you? Is it something else? James Madison wrote in Essay #10 of The Federalist Papers:       Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.   Refreshing : RIGHTS OF PROPERTY and SECURITY OF PERSONS. That's what socialists are opposed to...

James Madison wrote in Essay #10 of The Federalist Papers:       Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.   Refreshing : RIGHTS OF PROPERTY and SECURITY OF PERSONS. That's what socialists are opposed to... Madison was wrong about lots of things. Democracies have survived for a long time, and today most countries in the world are democracies. Kimgdoms and empires have fallen and have been replaced by democracies. The only people who are not so happy over democracy are the few very rich ones whose property is threatened by the right of the people to rule over itself and rule over their country, including all property in it. Property cannot exist without a state which defends it. Why would the people of a country defend the property of a few when the land and property is needed by the people? Those few very big property owners got their property to begin with by stealing if from the population in these countries, so why shouldn't the people use their democratic right to take it back? Roger J.

Property cannot exist without a state which defends it. Why would the people of a country defend the property of a few when the land and property is needed by the people? No. Property exists. Who owns that property is a matter of rights and defense of those rights, which, apparently, YOU DON'T SUPPORT. So go back into your thieves den to hatch your plots to democratically steal other people's property in the name of socialism. Either you support the rights of owners or you are a thief planning to steal them. So far, all your _object_ions
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Any society must be judged somewhat empirically, which is why if the average citizen is generally happy, it pays not to be too dogmatic about economics and politics.  However, too superficial a view can lead to problems down the track. Too bad that such a dismissal doesn't fit in with the situation. Citizens are subjects. People are what I'm interested in. Where people can own themselves, their labor, and the fruits of their labor, that is where one can pursue happiness without asking permission of another. Where people cannot own themselves, their labor, and the fruits of their labor, that is where one needs permission from the real power. I think you will find unhappiness (i.e., enslavement and subjugation) in the latter case.