The ones with (Micro? Mini?) SD card slots have significantly *more* capacity. Not yet - MicroSD are up to 8gig at the moment. Full size SD are at 16gig, so wait til next week for that to trickle down. Ah, but you can just buy several and swap them over as and when required. Cheers, Chris

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:00:34 +0000, Woody wrote (in article <1i9p969.vuukat1d2fzlfN% This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it ): I consider the 8GB size to be a restriction, in that it means it couldn't replace carrying an iPod as well. As it is I find the 16GB iPod touch a bit restrictive too, and 32GB would be the ideal size. Same here. I had to juggle music and South Park episodes on it recently. 16GB or more would allow me to take all the music I like, all my podcasts and still leave room for trip specific stuff. On the other hand, as a phone it's ace. Visual Voicemail is a killer app for me. Yes, I guess if you use that sort of thing it is a bit less of a pain paying those sort of contract fees.

without a contract. In fact it's actually a bit of a bargain if you can live without 3G, which most people can. But £35 a month for 18 months must be putting a lot of people off if they can see past the normal contract and free phone deals we're used to in the UK. If o2 gave it away free, or even £50, with the 18 month contract, they would really fly off the shelves. I don't mind the cost of the phone, I _object_ to the cost of the contract and the 18 month part. I have put a lot of effort into not having 18 month contacts and £45 for 600 minutes is taking the piss! Anyway, that contract is too much for too little for me, even though I am happy to say that I could live with every problem the iPhone has if it wasn't for that. Agreed. Now I've got an iPod Touch (jailbroken the first night... which was much more fiddly than I was expecting) and have played with a few iPhones, do agree. It might not have half the features of my N95 but I would quite happily swap the latter for the former (with one big exception: I do need to have a modem-on-the-move for my macbook and you can't do that with the iPh), but with Telefonica/O2's contract there is no way that I would even begin to consider it.

If you consider the market into which Apple launched the iPhone, no other cellphone has more storage capacity. -Every- other cellphone has more storage capacity. They all use swappable cards... Cheers, Ian

...As it is I find the 16GB iPod touch a bit restrictive too, and 32GB would be the ideal size. I'm hoping for 64Gig myself - that's a point at which I could buy* without worry. I bought Caz an iPod Touch for Christmas which she loves - I've had a play myself too and I like it, but for my own way of working I think I'd find 16Gig too restrictive and require too much manual intervention. Damned nice bit of kit though (the Touch). 32Gig is borderline for my current music library - it stands at 27.5Gig right now. Add in another load of space for video and photos and it's right at the limit. I'm assuming they'll go to 64Gig after 32Gig since this is memory, not hard drive space where they did 20, 30 and 60. That would easily last me the requisite number of years before the next upgrade. Cheers, Ian *...assuming all other issues are answered and that storage is my only concern, for the purposes of debate.

On the other hand, as a phone it's ace. Visual Voicemail is a killer app for me. Mostly avoid voicemail myself, but I do use picture messaging, send sms to multiple recipients and use my phone as a Bluetooth modem, so the iPhone is a bit of a non-starter here.