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protein, as well as what makes the proper *kinds* of protein. You really I might not want to eat more than 50g/day myself if none of it came from meat, egg or dairy but 50g/day is about .75g/kg/day for a 150 lb person. I'd be chewing my own arm off at that rate.  Even the 1800 calorie diet (and that is a standard diet they hand out to most people) I'm supposed to be eating according to my health care people out at the local hospital and clinic is 90 grams/day and some days I can't quite make that.  So according to you I should be eating what the WHO says instead?  The RDA is 0.8g/kg/day and there are some studies showing higher is probably healthier. BTW the RDA is the minimum requirement for avoiding nutritional deficiency diseases, it bears no practical resemblance to the amount that may be needed to maintain health. http://www.unu.edu/unupress/food2/UID01E/uid01e1w.htm#14.%20conclusion The WHO recommendation is not without controversy http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/6/1558S Understanding How Nutrition Affects Bone Health http://info.med.yale.edu/womenshealth//pdf/bone_health.pdf They are recommending a diet moderate in protein, defined as 0.45-0.68g/lb/day (1-1.5g/kg/day) or 68-100 grams for a 150 lb woman and state that Lower protein intakes may impair calcium absorption. Protein consumption is an important predictor of lower limb bone mass in elderly women. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15941897?dopt=Abstract CONCLUSION: These data suggest that protein intakes for elderly women above current recommendations may be necessary to optimize bone mass. The Recommended Dietary Allowance for Protein May Not Be Adequate for Older People to Maintain Skeletal Muscle http://biomed.gerontologyjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/56/6/M373 This study defined adequate protein for older people as 1.2g/kg/day http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/1344 Buried in the data of another study: http://weightoftheevidence.blogspot.com/2006/05/what-about-protein.html Those that did not develop diabetes had, just like those that did develop diabetes, impaired fasting glucose at _base_line. Both groups reduced calories, both groups increased fiber intake, both groups lowered fat and carbohydrate intake as a percentage of energy and in real grams consumed - the difference in their macronutrient composition was their intake of protein.  ***Those that did not develop diabetes maintained a constant 0.92g/kg-body-weight intake of protein;***those that did develop diabetes reduced their intake of protein from 0.83g/kg to 0.80g/kg and gained weight on less calories! Thanks, I think I'll stick with science over politics.
 
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Thanks, I think I'll stick with science over politics. And, I'll just keep eating my Hagan Daaz ice cream.   :^D Joyce
 
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too much protein, most kids today eat a diet heavy in starch and sugar Kids with growing brains need fat and protein, yes, but the kids you speak of above are not getting an adequate and healthy diet, period. *That's* why they're in trouble. If you feed your kids a truly healthy and good diet with enough calories in it,, they're going to get enough protein. You really have to *try* to not get enough protein as long as your overall diet is healthy
 
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Thanks, I think I'll stick with science Then I'd suggest you update your science and make it applicable to what I'm actually talking about as well. One of your sources is old (1994) and the other pointpoints elderly Australian women whose dietary protein intake is already below that of what several scientific sources (and subsequently I as well) have said is necessary (the above mentioned 0.75 g/kg). ? This of course does not even try to address a general American population in good health who gets too much and has consequences because of that.
 
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to *try* to not get enough protein as long as your overall diet is healthy
 
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