group more specific to his subject material direct us to it. Sure Carter. I think Barry's post are on the borderline of commercial ads......didn't he mention something about a book here not long ago? Secondly, it is not a general topic, rather it is just recipies. Thirdly, if you look at the history of Barry's post it does not general discussion, other than 'your making me hungry', I hate you...etc. Finally, and most importantly, if there are other newsgroups designated for such a post, his post should be routed there, and not nf.general. Here is some newsgroups as you requested. alt.food.recipies alt.food alt.recipies rec.food.recipes There are loads and loads of other newsgroups relating to food and recipies. It is for that reason, just like when Darryl posted his sports topics, that I feel it violates the mandate. - Ukryj cytowany tekst -- Poka? cytowany tekst - Carter

I copied this Mandate/FAQ verbatim from http://groups.google.ca/group/nf.general/search?group=nf.general&q=fa... I would also like to point out that the nf.  newsgroups are as follows.... nf.arts nf.birds nf.comp.linux nf.comp.misc nf.gardening nf.general nf.hiking nf.jobs nf.paddling nf.sports nf.test nf.wanted nf.women This article will be posted on a regular basis to nf.general in an effort to maintain the newsgroups' adherence to its mandate for the benefit of all users. Please direct any comments, suggestions or questions about this article ONLY to the nf.config newsgroup. If your ISP doesn't carry the nf.config newsgroup, please ask them to add it. Articles not in adherence to the mandate of nf.general will be cancelled without prior notification other than the cancel message explanation in the control.cancel newsgroup. Article cancellation is not taken lightly, and is not meant to imply censorship. Newsadmins should not be expected to interpret intent, judge relevance or arbitrate discussions in this unmoderated newsgroup. *** The most common reasons for article cancellation are *** ***  - binary postings ***  - commercial/for-profit or other want-ad postings ***  - non-general topics, topics which have specific newsgroups ***  - explicit foul language, personal attacks ***  - postings quoting articles that have been cancelled *** ========================= FAQ for nf.general ================================   1) how did nf.general get started ? Memorial University was the only local Usenet site for many years  and when another site started, it moved out some of its internal discussion groups into the nf.* hierarchy so more local users could be encompassed. Over time, ISPs started and became interested in participating in the local news hierarchy.   2) What can be posted to nf.general?     - its a discussion forum, for topics of interest to Newfoundlanders                                         and Labradorians     - no SPAM, commercial advertising or want-ads     - not for want-ads or articles with binary-encoded material     - for infrequent postings     - as for most discussion groups, you should post only what you'd       be willing to say to the person's face and avoid personal attacks Guidelines (each ISP is free to use their own, of course) ==========     - No binary postings.     - Technical and/or general PC questions should be posted into one of       nf.comp.* groups.     - No posting the same article every day, or several times a day, unless there's been a substantive change in material.     - Be selective (within reason) when including material in followups. If you include a complete message that is subsequently cancelled, your       posting will also be cancelled since it includes the offending article.   4) How can users know what a newsgroup charter is?     Most newsgroups have periodic postings about such things.     ISPs can certainly make Usenet guidelines available to their users. My news browser shows the 'purpose' line at the top of the screen whenever I enter a newsgroup, your mileage may vary.     A periodic posting FAQ will be posted. No discussion of the FAQ should be made in nf.general, instead discussion should be in nf.config.     New users to Usenet newsgroups should peruse the news.* hierarchy for information about newsgroups, particularly news.news.newusers.questions   5) How do guidelines get enforced ?     Every Usenet ISP can control what articles they accept, keep or cancel. Part of their Usenet config will allow filtering _base_d on size, number of articles, article content, article origin, etc... ISPs with talent can also implement other types of filters or act as a manual filter. Manual filtering consumes valuable people-time and isn't used at many sites. Making judgement calls about an article is a tricky business and personal bias can easily become evident. A clear set of guidelines help remove bias - all binary articles are cancelled, as a guideline for     example means there's no interpretation or second-guessing. Notification of article cancellation isn't normally made. All cancellations are posted to control.cancel with the explanation.   6) How does a newsgroups' charter get amended?     Start a discussion in nf.config regarding the proposed changes.

These personal attacks, or other forms of bashing Charles IS against the mandate. How so? If that is the case, Barry and others would be banned from here long ago. - Ukryj cytowany tekst -- Poka? cytowany tekst -

There are loads and loads of other newsgroups relating to food and recipies. It is for that reason, just like when Darryl posted his sports topics, that I feel it violates the mandate. We all know what you feel.  You may very well be right but, so far, all you have done is express opinion.  Let's see specifically whether you are right or not by posting the mandate and pointing out the part that you think is being violated. I'll even help you with that.  Here is the excerpt from the mandate FAQ which specifies what can be posted to nf.general, point out if you will which of these items Barry is violating; 2) What can be posted to nf.general?       - its a discussion forum, for topics of interest to Newfoundlanders and         Labradorians       - no SPAM, commercial advertising or want-ads       - not for want-ads or articles with binary-encoded material       - for infrequent postings       - as for most discussion groups, you should post only what you'd         be willing to say to the person's face and avoid personal attacks Carter

Why do you have a different set of rules for Barry. So Darryl must post to nf.sports, but Barry should not post to the newsgroups listed above?Come on! But DA, Darryl refused to comply when he was told by numerous people that he was violating the mandate. Why would you expect Charles to comply IF in fact he is violating the mandate?