I always use Lancome Liquid Eyeliner and it is truly the best... but not in the humidity and heat down in the south. Waterproof liquids I have used in the past seem to almost chip off but perhaps I have not found the right one yet? Suggestions? And for the members of this newgroup that don't follow the FAQ that they preach. If you have a question for or a problem with one specific person on the newsgroup, DO email that person directly and DO NOT post it to the entire group. If you can't find the person's email address, search DejaNews for their last post. It can really waste other people's time to wade through personal chats and/or name-calling.

: I always use Lancome Liquid Eyeliner and it is truly the best... but not in : the humidity and heat down in the south. Waterproof liquids I have used in : the past seem to almost chip off but perhaps I have not found the right : one yet? Suggestions? Try a different liner.  Personally, I'm a huge fan of powder eyeshadow applied wet w/ an angled brush.  That stays on me through washing my face. Also, Benefit's She-Laq is supposed to work wonders.  Butcher-Baby said it was worth it and she's a cheapo. : And for the members of this newgroup that don't follow the FAQ that they : preach. : If you have a question for or a problem with one specific person on the : newsgroup, DO email that person directly and DO NOT post it to the entire : group. If you can't find the person's email address, search DejaNews for : their last post. It can really waste other people's time to wade through : personal chats and/or name-calling. Hello pot, kettle, black.  That bit you quote above says to e-mail ppl, not post complaints.  Please note you are posting a complaint. j

Hello pot, kettle, black.  That bit you quote above says to e-mail ppl, not post complaints.  Please note you are posting a complaint. No. I was posting an observation at the end of an on-topic post.

I've never posted to alt.gothic.fashion before, but I work in cosmetics, so I figured I would go ahead and post my .02... Maybelline has a fabulous waterproof liquid eyeliner, it's cheap, and it stays on great.  It can be dry, however. Insider tip: Lancome and L'oreal are the *same* company, same products.  Save your money and go to the drug stores, not the counter...also, Clinique makes a shadow you can use a wet brush with and it works wonderful for a liquid eyeliner...although, you don't get as harsh of a line. HTH Rachel (Madame Archel) http://www.k4d4th.org/~rachel

Suggestions? I'm from Oklahoma where it's also very hot & humid.  I've had great luck Maybelline's Lineworks Ultra-Liner.  It's waterproof and I haven't noticed any problems with it chipping . ^v^ Angel AbSINthe * Expecting MommyGoth ^v^ E-mail - absinthe AT batcavebabes DOT com http://www.crosswinds.net/~glowinthedarkbat

Try a different liner.  Personally, I'm a huge fan of powder eyeshadow applied wet w/ an angled brush.  That stays on me through washing my face. Also, Benefit's She-Laq is supposed to work wonders.  Butcher-Baby said it was worth it and she's a cheapo. I'll look for She-Laq, though I am unsure where to find it. Department stores? Wherever BeneFit is sold