News & Views for Anarchists & Activists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo ZNet | Vision & Strategy Whose Violence? Imperial State Security And The Global Justice Movement by Leo Panitch Canadian Socialist Project http://www.socialistproject.ca/ December 01, 2004 Introduction Given the USA's unique imperial status in today's world, the reelection of George W. Bush inevitably has global as well as domestic implications, the direst of which is the readiness and indeed commitment on the part of all three wings of the U.S. Republican Party

If socialism is defined as the ownership or control of the means of production by the workers, or by the people, then that is fair comment. However socialists discovered early on that it was far easier to acheive their aims through taxation rather than through the direct ownership or control of the means of production by the workers or the by the people. don't you think those socialists betrayed socialism?

If socialism is defined as the ownership or control of the means of production by the workers, or by the people, then that is fair comment. However socialists discovered early on that it was far easier to acheive their aims through taxation rather than through the direct ownership or control of the means of production by the workers or the by the people. don't you think those socialists betrayed socialism? How can you betray a fiction? At most you can find out it has been a fiction. That's why they turn first into social-democrats and then into cleptocrats.